Comments on: Some random thoughts on scoring

By: umai

umai — Wed, 07 Jul 2010 06:58:23 +0000

yea that old thing is a piece of junk. I never got around to making it work properly since I stopped using java a long time ago and have no plans to install it again. At least it’s still good for… uhh… generating lots and lots of hands. w

By: Lorizean

Lorizean — Mon, 05 Jul 2010 08:43:34 +0000

@xKime Thanks alot!!

@umai:
Found a bug in the scoring quiz. It does not seem to properly recognize pinfu, i.e. if you got 2233455667788m, ron by 4m, it does not count the Pinfu (which it should, right?). I had another hand where it interpreted a ryanmen as kanchan and therefore didn’t give a pinfu. Both were situations where it could have been a ryanmen (22334 – 556677 – 88, waiting on 14m etc.) as well as kanchan (22 – 33455 – 667788, waiting on 4m only). But if I’m not mistaken, in that situation that counts as ryanmen, therefore Pinfu counts too?

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Thu, 10 Jun 2010 11:07:13 +0000

hrf

By: xKime

xKime — Sat, 05 Jun 2010 17:58:55 +0000

Okay, I’m probably a year late, but nonetheless, if anyone cares:

@Lorizean You can download a cellphone gameboy emulator called “meboy” and just load any gameboy rom mahjong game you want (there are a lot, such as Mahjong Pro Tsuwamono). The AI are kind of stupid, but it’s still very fun to just take the cellphone anyway, and assemble epic hands. I recommend any mahjong player with the will to play on the small cellphone screen to give this a try.

By: Lorizean

Lorizean — Thu, 27 Aug 2009 14:48:07 +0000

hm, thanks. I always counted shou san gen as 4 han and ignored the yakuhais, guess I was wrong :D (not that it matters for the actual score)
and regarding the mobile version: I don’t actually know how different J2ME and Java are, so I don’t know how much you had to change the code…
and on that note, does someone know a riichi mahjong game for mobile phones? The only thing I can find are those stupid solitaire games or flash-based ones and the blackberry doesn’t support flash, unfortunately :(

By: umai

umai — Thu, 27 Aug 2009 04:48:05 +0000

Shou san gen is worth 2 han itself on top of the 2 from yakuhai, so it is still 4 han total. Sort of how honroutou is always at least 4 han even if it is only worth 2 itself plus 2 from either toitoi or chiitoitsu.

I might be lynched for admitting this, but I happen to know J2ME, which means I could in theory make a mobile version. I don’t think there would be much demand for that project, though, which is just as well since I hate looking at my old work. I’d much rather rewrite the whole thing as a server-side script in something other than java which would avoid bogging down browsers with klunky applets and junk. =3=

By: Lorizean

Lorizean — Wed, 26 Aug 2009 20:42:55 +0000

Two things:
1. is it possible to somehow get those quizzes on my phone? Its Java, so it should work on a blackberry 9500, right?
2. In the Yaku quiz, there was a 小三元 but the quiz still required me to check the 2 役牌 (ハク & チュン). I thought those are already included in the 小三元 yaku? (as in, its 4 han in total, not 6).

By: umai

umai — Wed, 05 Aug 2009 20:42:03 +0000

Yeah, that’s definitely a bug. I warn people that it counts Shanpon waits won by Ron as concealed (an kou), which is an oversight and not an actual scoring rule. I should probably fix it at some point, but :effort:

By: Poochy.EXE

Poochy.EXE — Wed, 05 Aug 2009 09:42:47 +0000

I think I found a bug in the score quiz:

http://webpages.charter.net/poochyexe/temp/MahjongScoreQuizBug.png

In this case, I’m pretty sure San An Kou would not count, as the third an kou came from a ron.

By: MazuiKeiki

MazuiKeiki — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 19:25:50 +0000

Thanks for the chart CRiX!

Kafka, the house rules in question let East get Renhou from one of the other players’ first discards even though he made four concealed Kans and Riichi already. The flowers are treated as nuki-dora and the bonus for getting all the flowers is treated as a Yakuman. And the Aotenjou rule turns all yakuman into ordinary, stackable yaku worth 13 Han. So it is possible, although highly unlikely in real life that all these rules would be in effect at the same time.

The 4 yakuhai comes up when East counts as a double wind.